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The Town of Milton is potentially installing speed cushions along Fourth Line between Louis St Laurent Avenue and Derry Road.

Over the last few years, a number of studies were undertaken to assess the need for traffic calming measures on Fourth Line. The results showed that additional measures warranted consideration.

As part of the Town’s Traffic Calming Policy, 51 per cent of residents directly impacted by the traffic calming measure must be in support for the measure to be implemented. In this case, 51 per cent of residents with direct residential frontage along Fourth Line between Louis St Laurent Avenue and Derry Road must be in support.

How you can participate:

Residents living within the neighbourhood or on the affected road are encouraged to watch the virtual presentation of the proposed Fourth Line speed cushions.

After viewing the presentation, residents who have direct frontage on Fourth Line are asked to complete the survey below indicating support or no support of the proposed speed cushions

Comments and survey responses will be accepted until June 28, 2024.

The Town of Milton is potentially installing speed cushions along Fourth Line between Louis St Laurent Avenue and Derry Road.

Over the last few years, a number of studies were undertaken to assess the need for traffic calming measures on Fourth Line. The results showed that additional measures warranted consideration.

As part of the Town’s Traffic Calming Policy, 51 per cent of residents directly impacted by the traffic calming measure must be in support for the measure to be implemented. In this case, 51 per cent of residents with direct residential frontage along Fourth Line between Louis St Laurent Avenue and Derry Road must be in support.

How you can participate:

Residents living within the neighbourhood or on the affected road are encouraged to watch the virtual presentation of the proposed Fourth Line speed cushions.

After viewing the presentation, residents who have direct frontage on Fourth Line are asked to complete the survey below indicating support or no support of the proposed speed cushions

Comments and survey responses will be accepted until June 28, 2024.

CLOSED: This discussion has concluded.

Let us know if you have any questions about traffic calming measures on Fourth Line.

  • Share This is more of a suggestion than a question. You should also consider speed cameras and have an officer on this street at least once a week enforcing the speed and loud cars and bikes espcially on weekends, bikes that are sitting in the driveways in idle and owners reving the throttle for no reason other then to make noise. And a lot people going through the stop sign at fourth line and Menefy. Thank you. on Facebook Share This is more of a suggestion than a question. You should also consider speed cameras and have an officer on this street at least once a week enforcing the speed and loud cars and bikes espcially on weekends, bikes that are sitting in the driveways in idle and owners reving the throttle for no reason other then to make noise. And a lot people going through the stop sign at fourth line and Menefy. Thank you. on Twitter Share This is more of a suggestion than a question. You should also consider speed cameras and have an officer on this street at least once a week enforcing the speed and loud cars and bikes espcially on weekends, bikes that are sitting in the driveways in idle and owners reving the throttle for no reason other then to make noise. And a lot people going through the stop sign at fourth line and Menefy. Thank you. on Linkedin Email This is more of a suggestion than a question. You should also consider speed cameras and have an officer on this street at least once a week enforcing the speed and loud cars and bikes espcially on weekends, bikes that are sitting in the driveways in idle and owners reving the throttle for no reason other then to make noise. And a lot people going through the stop sign at fourth line and Menefy. Thank you. link

    This is more of a suggestion than a question. You should also consider speed cameras and have an officer on this street at least once a week enforcing the speed and loud cars and bikes espcially on weekends, bikes that are sitting in the driveways in idle and owners reving the throttle for no reason other then to make noise. And a lot people going through the stop sign at fourth line and Menefy. Thank you.

    John o asked 5 months ago

    Police presence is a temporary solution as police can not be present all the time.

    The Town of Milton currently does not have Automated Speed Enforcement (speed cameras). This road safety program is currently being discussed. Staff provided a report to Council titled (DS-050-23 Supporting Safe Roads in Milton 2023 Update) regarding an Automated Speed Enforcement update. If you wish to read about this update, there is a link provided below:

    https://www.milton.ca/Modules/MinutesMeetings/Report.aspx?year=2023

    Cars not stopping at stop signs is an enforcement issue through the police. Through the Road Watch program, there is a form that can be filled out that can be sent to Halton Region Police. The link is placed below if you wish to fill out this form.

    https://www.haltonpolice.ca/en/services-and-reporting/reporting.aspx

    Kind regards,

  • Share I would like agree with the feedback below that it would be great to enforce the "no parking on a boulevard within 50m of an intersection" bylaw. It obstructs the drivers view when turning onto 4th line. Would the Town consider no parking on 4th line given the volume of traffic, the width of 4th line, and the number of parked cars? on Facebook Share I would like agree with the feedback below that it would be great to enforce the "no parking on a boulevard within 50m of an intersection" bylaw. It obstructs the drivers view when turning onto 4th line. Would the Town consider no parking on 4th line given the volume of traffic, the width of 4th line, and the number of parked cars? on Twitter Share I would like agree with the feedback below that it would be great to enforce the "no parking on a boulevard within 50m of an intersection" bylaw. It obstructs the drivers view when turning onto 4th line. Would the Town consider no parking on 4th line given the volume of traffic, the width of 4th line, and the number of parked cars? on Linkedin Email I would like agree with the feedback below that it would be great to enforce the "no parking on a boulevard within 50m of an intersection" bylaw. It obstructs the drivers view when turning onto 4th line. Would the Town consider no parking on 4th line given the volume of traffic, the width of 4th line, and the number of parked cars? link

    I would like agree with the feedback below that it would be great to enforce the "no parking on a boulevard within 50m of an intersection" bylaw. It obstructs the drivers view when turning onto 4th line. Would the Town consider no parking on 4th line given the volume of traffic, the width of 4th line, and the number of parked cars?

    Local Resident asked 5 months ago

    Thank you for your comment and question.

    The Town does like to provide as much parking as possible on roadways. On most roadways with the width of 9 meter right of way, parking is available on 1 side of the roadway.

    Regarding the removal of parking along Fourth Line, this would need to be supported by the residents that live on Fourth Line. If you wish to submit a request to remove the parking along Fourth Line, please email engineering@milton.ca for further information.

    Kind regards,

  • Share Why the intersection of Fourth Line and Louis St Laurent is not blocked, so that people cannot drive northbound and southbound of this intersection but only eastbound and westbound, similiar to what is currently implemented in Derry Road and Fourth Line? on Facebook Share Why the intersection of Fourth Line and Louis St Laurent is not blocked, so that people cannot drive northbound and southbound of this intersection but only eastbound and westbound, similiar to what is currently implemented in Derry Road and Fourth Line? on Twitter Share Why the intersection of Fourth Line and Louis St Laurent is not blocked, so that people cannot drive northbound and southbound of this intersection but only eastbound and westbound, similiar to what is currently implemented in Derry Road and Fourth Line? on Linkedin Email Why the intersection of Fourth Line and Louis St Laurent is not blocked, so that people cannot drive northbound and southbound of this intersection but only eastbound and westbound, similiar to what is currently implemented in Derry Road and Fourth Line? link

    Why the intersection of Fourth Line and Louis St Laurent is not blocked, so that people cannot drive northbound and southbound of this intersection but only eastbound and westbound, similiar to what is currently implemented in Derry Road and Fourth Line?

    cheunb2 asked 6 months ago

    Thank you for your comment.

    With the ongoing development south of Louis St Laurent Avenue taking place, the intersection of Fourth Line and Louis St Laurent Avenue will be re-evaluated to determine if it should still be converted to a right in/right out intersection. If it is justified, this would not occur until both Trudeau Drive and Ferguson Drive are opened at Britannia Road.

  • Share Would it be possible to limit the speed breakers to 3 locations, at the new daycare, at the natural gas walking trail, at the beaty library, also it it possible to construct a new walking trail between the boundary of the new daycare and the ravine, for the safety of the school children going to IRMA COULSON PUBLIC SCHOOL ? on Facebook Share Would it be possible to limit the speed breakers to 3 locations, at the new daycare, at the natural gas walking trail, at the beaty library, also it it possible to construct a new walking trail between the boundary of the new daycare and the ravine, for the safety of the school children going to IRMA COULSON PUBLIC SCHOOL ? on Twitter Share Would it be possible to limit the speed breakers to 3 locations, at the new daycare, at the natural gas walking trail, at the beaty library, also it it possible to construct a new walking trail between the boundary of the new daycare and the ravine, for the safety of the school children going to IRMA COULSON PUBLIC SCHOOL ? on Linkedin Email Would it be possible to limit the speed breakers to 3 locations, at the new daycare, at the natural gas walking trail, at the beaty library, also it it possible to construct a new walking trail between the boundary of the new daycare and the ravine, for the safety of the school children going to IRMA COULSON PUBLIC SCHOOL ? link

    Would it be possible to limit the speed breakers to 3 locations, at the new daycare, at the natural gas walking trail, at the beaty library, also it it possible to construct a new walking trail between the boundary of the new daycare and the ravine, for the safety of the school children going to IRMA COULSON PUBLIC SCHOOL ?

    Jawaid asked 5 months ago

    Thank you for your questions.

    The proposed speed cushions have been spaced according to achieve the desired result of lowering the amount of speeding on Fourth Line. Implementing only 3 speed cushions locations would be non-effective for a roadway of this length. 

    Constructing a new walking trail from the new daycare at the corner of Derry Road and Fourth Line is related to the new development. If you wish to submit a request for this to be looked at, please contact Development Services at the Town of Milton. I have placed a link below:

    https://forms.milton.ca/ContactUs/Planning-and-Development

    Kind regards,

  • Share If you were to put all way stops at Beatie and Storey, and leave the speed cushions at 746 and 830, would it be as effective and reduce cost and future repairs? on Facebook Share If you were to put all way stops at Beatie and Storey, and leave the speed cushions at 746 and 830, would it be as effective and reduce cost and future repairs? on Twitter Share If you were to put all way stops at Beatie and Storey, and leave the speed cushions at 746 and 830, would it be as effective and reduce cost and future repairs? on Linkedin Email If you were to put all way stops at Beatie and Storey, and leave the speed cushions at 746 and 830, would it be as effective and reduce cost and future repairs? link

    If you were to put all way stops at Beatie and Storey, and leave the speed cushions at 746 and 830, would it be as effective and reduce cost and future repairs?

    DJ asked 6 months ago

    Thank you for your question.

    In order for an all-way stop to be installed, certain volume and pedestrian warrants need to be fulfilled. All-way stops are intended to control the right-of-way at an intersection, and are not to be used as a speed control device. Studies show that un-warranted all-way stops can lead to poor driver compliance, as drivers become accustomed to not meeting opposing traffic at the intersection. 

    Kind regards,

  • Share I was recently driving in London ON. They had some kind of speed bumps on the road made of a rubbery material. If you drove over it slowly, there was no problem, you couldn't tell there was a speed bump - the material flattened out. You drove over it fast, it didn't flatten out and you felt the speed bump. Has consideration been given to this type of speed bump? Thank you. on Facebook Share I was recently driving in London ON. They had some kind of speed bumps on the road made of a rubbery material. If you drove over it slowly, there was no problem, you couldn't tell there was a speed bump - the material flattened out. You drove over it fast, it didn't flatten out and you felt the speed bump. Has consideration been given to this type of speed bump? Thank you. on Twitter Share I was recently driving in London ON. They had some kind of speed bumps on the road made of a rubbery material. If you drove over it slowly, there was no problem, you couldn't tell there was a speed bump - the material flattened out. You drove over it fast, it didn't flatten out and you felt the speed bump. Has consideration been given to this type of speed bump? Thank you. on Linkedin Email I was recently driving in London ON. They had some kind of speed bumps on the road made of a rubbery material. If you drove over it slowly, there was no problem, you couldn't tell there was a speed bump - the material flattened out. You drove over it fast, it didn't flatten out and you felt the speed bump. Has consideration been given to this type of speed bump? Thank you. link

    I was recently driving in London ON. They had some kind of speed bumps on the road made of a rubbery material. If you drove over it slowly, there was no problem, you couldn't tell there was a speed bump - the material flattened out. You drove over it fast, it didn't flatten out and you felt the speed bump. Has consideration been given to this type of speed bump? Thank you.

    RJ asked 6 months ago

    This type of speed hump is known as a temporary speed hump. Staff did plan on temporary speed cushions to be installed for the first year. As a result of research, the Town has completed with surrounding municipalities, it was decided that instead of installing temporary speed cushions that would need to be removed every winter and would cause significant damage to the road surface, that asphalt speed cushions would be installed instead. These speed cushions would be in place all year round and they do not damage the road surface. Asphalt speed cushions can be removed if deemed necessary by our staff.

  • Share Has consideration been given to the installation of flexible delineator posts on the centerline of the roadway in areas instead? The resulting smaller lane width would encourage slower speeds. Speed pillows encourage vehicles to apply brakes when approaching and accelerate after crossing. There's more noise, pollution and maybe even higher peak speeds on Facebook Share Has consideration been given to the installation of flexible delineator posts on the centerline of the roadway in areas instead? The resulting smaller lane width would encourage slower speeds. Speed pillows encourage vehicles to apply brakes when approaching and accelerate after crossing. There's more noise, pollution and maybe even higher peak speeds on Twitter Share Has consideration been given to the installation of flexible delineator posts on the centerline of the roadway in areas instead? The resulting smaller lane width would encourage slower speeds. Speed pillows encourage vehicles to apply brakes when approaching and accelerate after crossing. There's more noise, pollution and maybe even higher peak speeds on Linkedin Email Has consideration been given to the installation of flexible delineator posts on the centerline of the roadway in areas instead? The resulting smaller lane width would encourage slower speeds. Speed pillows encourage vehicles to apply brakes when approaching and accelerate after crossing. There's more noise, pollution and maybe even higher peak speeds link

    Has consideration been given to the installation of flexible delineator posts on the centerline of the roadway in areas instead? The resulting smaller lane width would encourage slower speeds. Speed pillows encourage vehicles to apply brakes when approaching and accelerate after crossing. There's more noise, pollution and maybe even higher peak speeds

    Paul21 asked 6 months ago

    Yes, all different types of traffic calming measures are considered on any given roadway. Flexible bollards would need to be removed in the winter time and reinstalled in the spring. Staff would like to achieve permanent traffic calming measures all year round. Speed humps or speed cushions provide the highest reduction rate for vehicular speeding. Post-implementation studies will determine whether the implemented measures achieved the desired results.

    Kind regards,

  • Share For the speed cushion installation between Hearst Blvd and Louis St Laurent, there should be 2 installations instead of just one, as people usually speed up as soon as they enter Fourth Line northbound from Louis St Laurent, or when they passed the Library and moving south towards Louis St Laurent. Thank you. on Facebook Share For the speed cushion installation between Hearst Blvd and Louis St Laurent, there should be 2 installations instead of just one, as people usually speed up as soon as they enter Fourth Line northbound from Louis St Laurent, or when they passed the Library and moving south towards Louis St Laurent. Thank you. on Twitter Share For the speed cushion installation between Hearst Blvd and Louis St Laurent, there should be 2 installations instead of just one, as people usually speed up as soon as they enter Fourth Line northbound from Louis St Laurent, or when they passed the Library and moving south towards Louis St Laurent. Thank you. on Linkedin Email For the speed cushion installation between Hearst Blvd and Louis St Laurent, there should be 2 installations instead of just one, as people usually speed up as soon as they enter Fourth Line northbound from Louis St Laurent, or when they passed the Library and moving south towards Louis St Laurent. Thank you. link

    For the speed cushion installation between Hearst Blvd and Louis St Laurent, there should be 2 installations instead of just one, as people usually speed up as soon as they enter Fourth Line northbound from Louis St Laurent, or when they passed the Library and moving south towards Louis St Laurent. Thank you.

    cheunb2 asked 6 months ago

    Thank you for your comment.

    Staff have confirmed that the spacing of speed humps on this section of the road is appropriate. If the proposed traffic calming measures receive support, the staff will conduct post-implementation. Post-implementation data collection that allows staff to determine whether the implemented measures achieved the desired results. Those results will be posted on the Let's Talk Milton Project Page as a before and after comparison.

    Kind regards,

  • Share Since this is a safety based initiative, I think it would be great to begin to enforce the "no parking on a boulevard within 50m of an intersection" bylaw on this stretch as well. Many left and right turns out onto 4th line have views blocked and add danger. Any thoughts on this piece? It's such a narrow road, which makes these sightlines more important than most places - there's no room for error here. on Facebook Share Since this is a safety based initiative, I think it would be great to begin to enforce the "no parking on a boulevard within 50m of an intersection" bylaw on this stretch as well. Many left and right turns out onto 4th line have views blocked and add danger. Any thoughts on this piece? It's such a narrow road, which makes these sightlines more important than most places - there's no room for error here. on Twitter Share Since this is a safety based initiative, I think it would be great to begin to enforce the "no parking on a boulevard within 50m of an intersection" bylaw on this stretch as well. Many left and right turns out onto 4th line have views blocked and add danger. Any thoughts on this piece? It's such a narrow road, which makes these sightlines more important than most places - there's no room for error here. on Linkedin Email Since this is a safety based initiative, I think it would be great to begin to enforce the "no parking on a boulevard within 50m of an intersection" bylaw on this stretch as well. Many left and right turns out onto 4th line have views blocked and add danger. Any thoughts on this piece? It's such a narrow road, which makes these sightlines more important than most places - there's no room for error here. link

    Since this is a safety based initiative, I think it would be great to begin to enforce the "no parking on a boulevard within 50m of an intersection" bylaw on this stretch as well. Many left and right turns out onto 4th line have views blocked and add danger. Any thoughts on this piece? It's such a narrow road, which makes these sightlines more important than most places - there's no room for error here.

    fredhelps asked 6 months ago

    Good Afternoon,

    Thank you for your comment.

    Staff will request that by-law enforcement be out more frequently to help with this concern. Residents may also contact by-law enforcement to submit a request for vehicles to be ticketed where this concern is happening frequently. 

    The link is placed below if you wish to submit a request: https://www.milton.ca/en/town-hall/by-law-enforcement.aspx 

    Thanks

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